All The Way On w/ Yonder Wizzerd - GORCAST Podcast with Taylor Gorman | Ep. 60

GORCAST Podcast with Taylor Gorman - Episode 60

In this episode of GORCAST Podcast with Taylor Gorman, we sit down with Yonder Wizzerd, a Musician and Stand Up Comedian in Austin Texas. Taylor and Yonder discuss the creative process & analyzing their own habits good & bad, diving into Yonder's life before his sobriety.

Tune in as Taylor Gorman, vocalist of the touring metal band BYSTANDER, brings his unique perspective and passion for deep conversations to this engaging discussion. Whether you're a fan of music, comedy, or just love hearing from people who do cool sh*t, this episode is packed with valuable takeaways.

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Video title: All The Way On w/ Yonder Wizzerd - GORCAST Podcast with Taylor Gorman | Ep. 60

Video URL: https://youtu.be/EldkAt6Qh2Y

Video language: English (auto-generated)

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guys what's going on welcome back to another episode of the gorast uh we we haven't been recording them for the last few weeks I've been traveling and [ __ ] so thank you for uh being patient but we are back and uh also I'm going to be in Fort Worth Texas on August 31st uh opening up the show and hosting for my boy Michael Ridley so grab tickets they're in the link in the description um and make sure to like And subscribe um today we have a third time guest one of my favorite people in all of Austin Texas the man that is responsible for getting me to start doing standup comedy in the first place he I like to describe him as the great deu tree of Austin comedy you guys give it up for Yonder wizard yeah the great deu tree is back folks yes we're going to church brother that's what I call doing a podcast with you as we're going to church praise God I need to check in dude I need to check in with myself I need to go to church hail Satan hail Satan how you doing buddy great how are you buddy I'm good man I'm just living living the dream life is crazy right now oh is just so we're so fortunate I have to remind myself every day cuz you get caught up in kind of the hustle and bustle and the grind but like dude we are having so much fun out here life is even on the hardest hottest slowest days life is [ __ ] good man yeah life is pretty good um I have a hard time believing that it's real most days yeah like uh I don't know it's it's is especially now after kill Tony is the biggest thing on the [ __ ] planet and it's right in our own backyard and I don't know man it's it's it's cool that people outside of here are getting into that stuff now like people from back home who never gave a [ __ ] about it when I was losing my mind over it like six years ago MH and for people that don't know you're you you like run the Discord people that haven't tuned into the podcast before we can give them a little refresher course about like how you're you got to watch all the episodes you got to watch them you got to go back to that first one where you're completely out of focus the entire time and I didn't know what I was doing and we were doing it in my shitty apartment complex thing and and then uh I think it was your camera like died halfway through so halfway through it's just me talking it's just me and you you talking from the from the other you know from the background you got to you got to just Bob and you got to learn right the meat was good it was the meat on that one was good that was it was perfect but yeah man like yeah I I I I don't really actively run them anymore the Discord or the subreddit but I'm still like I'm still in there yeah and I still have the powers I always had the wizard Powers you've always had yeah I'm [ __ ] out of it by the way I am too man we're just chilling I mean it's all right we have we we just both of us just pretty much woke up we're still we're still activating the gears are slowly turning dude we're greasing our gear years right now yeah dude I was like I I set I set my alarm to get up and then I I got up and then uh I think I turned it off like subconsciously and then I I I somehow woke up and saw the message and I was like oh [ __ ] yeah oh yeah oh yeah let's get going it's so funny too because it's like it's that's just how everyone is when you like SCH cuz everyone like is doing a podcast out here and everybody wants each other on and we schedule hey let's do and you and I have been looking forward to this for like three weeks now and every time I see you down there every night or every other night you're you know Tuesday at two Tuesday at two Tuesday at two you were the last one to say it you you said it to me last time I saw you Tuesday at two and I went you bet and then the day comes and you're like okay hey what am I do okay good thing I don't have anything going on today good and then then you look at your phone oh [ __ ] I did make some [ __ ] plans no it wasn't that I knew it was happening I just like I I we did virtual Red Band last night mhm and uh can you explain what that is a little bit okay so virtual red band is in short the reason I live in Austin but uh it's um redband Brian redband from Kil Tony obviously uh does this thing we all go into this thing game called VR chat and you can do it on PC but we usually do it in VR headsets and you're basically like a little cartoon version of whatever your avatar is and you can just hang out and we just go from world to world and that's all it is it's literally like you're like we we could be in a podcast Studio but you could be like I don't know like a like a kangaroo chuckecheese with huge tits exactly red man is Wendy's Wendy from Wendy's with giant knockers I think I've seen that before hell of a front porch on that boy yeah yeah hell of a front porch um but no it's it's it's that and I'm Merlin from Sword and the stone so like I got I'm I'm giant blue robe and and wizard hat with the wand and everything like it's that's who I've always was to Red Band casting spells on people giving them huge tits I wish I could do that I wish I could do that that'd be awesome abraa abrica Tita uh yeah abraa bom abom whatever I was trying to think of something clever to say but it took me ABCA Double D's there you go there you go but no that that's what it is and uh uh so basically there's like a group of us there's about 15 to 20 of us that rotates out and there's probably you know 10 of us at a time that kind of what do you do when you go in there so you just go you want hang and you literally just talk to each other and jump around and hang out yeah we smoke we smoke a lot uh we we do it on we do it on YouTube honestly you could probably like uh on red band's YouTube oh uh actually I got to do something really quick sorry Yonder uh an emergency here uh we'll be right back and we're back I'm sorry about that dude you're good I might get I might get pulled away one more time but we're going to we're going to just we're going to get through this uh so yeah so virtual redband here you keep the volume down to you on the slide the Bluetooth slider just show us what it looks like here the little the butt under the third where it says home video shorts live go click live up top there you go that's where we do all of our [ __ ] that's uh the part twos are where we're in are where we're in VR chat so you can just click any part two this is what red band does when he's not doing the kill Tony stuff yeah just clip to the middle I love the wy's yeah whoa so this is this is it do that that's red man that's stud muffin and that's me over there to decide long with the beard you can see my beard over to the left and that's Janice that's toe that's Red Man's fiance is the hot dog the guy talking is stud muffing the pimp but see this is like just a world we're living in are hanging out in but you guys are just kind of chatting and and bullshitting here turn the volume off to you that's all it is yeah nice sounds like bri reding back in all right you can cut it off but yeah that's basically what it is right there that's the thing that's the thing yeah uh uh so what so so it's just kind of so it's kind of like a podcast but kind of it's just a hang hang with crazy silly characters and so part one of VR chat is Red Band just talking he's just talking with us like not with us but like he's just it's it's him in real life in front of his microphone talking about okay so this episode of kill Tony that dropped this week was pretty cool or yes Secret Show last night was cool or whatever the thing is MH and uh he does that for about an hour sometimes an hour and a half and then after that he's like all right guys we're going to split this up I'm going to go get some ice fix a drink you go do your thing go get a snack walk your dog we're going to come back and part two will be in VR so then it switches to part two which is that I just showed you nice but yeah we're just smoking like we're in our own rooms we're in our own houses where everybody is comfortable in their own space and I'm a weirdo so that makes me happy right you know to know that everybody's happy in their own space and that's a thing that I'm happy about that's kind of something I was thinking about because I used to do Twitch streaming you know what I mean oh yeah and I feel like the type of people that really enjoy like interacting in the chat I I I always wonder if those people are like maybe they don't enjoy traditional social settings as much cuz they maybe have anxiety or whatever yeah and then when they're when they're there they can kind of be part of the hang and then chime in when they want to on chat and then they kind of have a little more control over their little social interaction kind of it's and that that was always cool you know what I mean just seeing people that might they might not that there's people probably on there that are super super social in the chat talking or whatever but they're they would be the guy on the wall at the party or something oh well I'm I'm honestly I'm kind of that guy okay I'm an introvert that's very good at pretending to be an extrovert uh a lot of the time uhoh I just lost something here did you lose your headphones it just unless I'm dying am I dying is it the knobby on the side did you bump the knobby no I don't know you can't can you hear yeah I he it went down like it went down and then I it came back weird it maybe a Noise Gate thing I'm sorry you're not having a stroke you're not having a stroke it's okay sometimes I get scared God this Studio sucks especially everything here sucks especially when I'm uh especially when I'm talking about um uh being an introvert being an introvert and then I'm just like oh God they're coming for me they they know they're taking your voice they're [ __ ] they can hear me um but no they uh yeah they uh oh [ __ ] what oh yeah I'm an introvert is very good at pretending to be an extrovert most time or yeah so I'm the guy who likes to be able to chime in when I want like even in in in VR chat until red band's like Yonder what do you think about yada y I'm pretty much just kind of hanging to the side you can hit the mute if you want yeah if I want fix yourself a hot dog most of the time I'm just sitting there with my VR headset up on my head and I'm just kind of [ __ ] with my phone and then all of a sudden there'll be like a list of things going around we're going to go around the room and everybody say their favorite uh cereal or whatever and and then they go around the room and it's like everybody in our little group says their own says their little thing or whatever and whenever it gets to me sometimes I uh admittedly haven't been paying attention and don't know the question so whenever they ask me something I just say I just talk and it doesn't even have to be relevant and usually it goes better than the people that give an honest answer like a an Earnest answer when I'm just I'm just saying something stupid they're like what's your favorite cereal everyone goes around and it gets to you and then you're like like you're oh you're it's like the kid that wasn't paying attention in class you know and they're like Yonder please read from uh paragraph you know and then uh and then you're like oh uh back in uh 1998 I was in uh in South Carolina going on this reminds me of this time we went to Revco to pick up some uh uh my cousin got Li and uh and then they're like what the and I yeah we were talking about Fruity Pebbles Yonder oh yeah Fruity Pebbles are good see like that like it would be it would be something stupid like that uh but yeah that's I did that in South Carolina before I moved here so like that's how I really became friends with Brian and after that happened and I I would play music in there sometimes because there's actual open mics in virtual reality that we go to sometimes and we got a crew so sometimes we'll go into a room and kind of like take over and Open Mic mhm and we'll do like a secret show in VR where I'll come on and play like three or four songs and then I'll introduce redband and redband lets everybody in our group like this first person coming to the stage is yada yada yada he hosts a little comedy show for everybody in our group comedy show and like nobody's a comic like they're just normal people They but they go up and do it it's funny it's it's kind of fun the heartburns I'm losing a battle today what did you what did you eat what's what is it from it it was something dirty late night be honest tell us about it let's we're going to church Yonder we're going to church it was Burger King oh [Laughter] no Burg what did you do what did you do at the at the at the the BK lounge it was the onion ring oh no did you have the little zesty sauce too that it comes with no oh you just went you raw dogged them you were raw dogging BK onion rings at 2 a.m. no I just ate it light the inside of this thing so all those little acidic crumbs at the bottom every last crumb yeah it's okay doesn't it feel good to get it out there doesn't it feel good to kind of just get it off your chest and no no no but it was I I tell you what it was it wasn't the burger it it was the Dr Pepper oh yeah that'll get you dude it was the Dr Pepper that got me because I've been I've been doing this thing lately where I I I I don't I didn't drink soft drinks for years until I moved to Austin and I started wanting to drink like hard Beverages and then I was like man well I can't do that we're not going back to being people that don't know you're sober for how long now uh March of 2016 damn 8 8 and a half sober no alcohol alcohol sober yeah no no booze uh no booze for like eight eight years and some change and then no powder for like seven years and some change dude you on the powder would have been crazy bro I can't imagine you on the powpow hitting the slopes with Y Dy ver what did that what was that like give me a rundown of that it was uh uh either the best time you've ever had or the best time I've ever had uh I mean it was uh what's like a good time and a bad time for somebody hanging out with you on coke okay a good time with me is maybe a story a quick a quick if you got a quick story of each oh man we used to play Ry one of my buddies who I used to mess around with that stuff with was actually in town this weekend and we were talking about it cuz he also we both of us kind of stopped at the same time and we were both saying like man honestly I kind of think maybe the last time we did this was together and neither of us knew it was going to be the last time right you just had we just cuz I don't even know the exact day I know that I know my sober date from booze I know my no cigarettes date I know the date on all of those but I don't I don't know the date on the powder but bro we used to play Ry and uh I had this rocking chair that was haunted haunted Rocky chair yeah and it was funny it was because and I we found out it was haunted because we used to play a lot of Ry at the house we it were just cards Uno do blow and play cards yeah I don't know why that's so funny to me wait wait like it's just you go do blow you go to a rock show you go to do something crazy but you just do oh no D we were [ __ ] hit me no we were like uh crazy people that we would take turns looking out the window um but no we'd pass around a plate just like we'd have like just a regular white I still have the plate the commemorative plate I still have it I just eat steak off of it now M um but yeah we would just pass around the plate and play Ry but we found out the chair was haunted because no matter who it was that sat in that chair always ended up getting like Angry getting really disgruntled about the game or something like that and then we started just kind of making a joke a the chair is a the chair is haunted and only a couple people knew it so we would uh we would put whoever was new like hey you get the rocking chair and they oh I love this is comfortable I love this and then you were like we wait and see and then but I would we wouldn't tell anybody we wouldn't tell them but then after a while they would kind of start getting angry and they would start getting getting nasty and snippy and it just it was always whoever sat in that chair and then we'd be like we'd be like hey how about come sit over here for a little bit and then they would like get up and go somewhere else and over in the in the armchair like they would it would almost be like they would stand up and the spell would be broken and you could I'm not even joking you could see it but one time my uh my buddy who was here this past weekend and his his now wife was hanging out with us and I looked at the guy sitting in the chair and I I we came to the conclusion that the per the whatever ghost lived in the chair wasn't an angry old woman because it was like snippy old old lady stuff that they would like bark at you yeah it was always that and and and you you you skipped your turn I'm like that like and I knew the name I knew a name that I had that I had like just had just keep reoccurring in my mind or whatever and I was like I looked at him and I was like hey do me a favor if you could choose any old lady angry old lady name what would it be and I CED my so he could not he's sitting over here and Hannah is sitting over here yeah you got okay I'm sorry one more time guys we'll be right back I'm I'm really sorry about this no no no and we're back God I'm so sorry dude nonsense we we we're dealing uh yeah we're dealing with homeless people outside of the studio and trying to ask them nicely to leave they don't they don't ask nice we you know all too well you work on Sixth Street oh I do [ __ ] know um anyway you were talking about you were talking about the evil chair and you were you were getting ready to tell us that you picked a old lady name I asked Tyler who's sitting in the chair Cho if you could pick if you could pick any old lady's name like an angry old lady's name what would it be I cut my mouth so that he couldn't see what I was saying and I mouthed the word Ethel to Hannah I mouthed the word Ethel to Hannah and as I was saying it came out of Tyler's mouth whoa and I'm not even joking you like it it [ __ ] everybody in the room got real real [ __ ] like wide eyed it got weird and dude we were all like out of our minds at this point like on derangement it really it really that's what it that's what it was but I don't know if any of that shit's real but that happened and there was a weird at the very least a weird drug drug induced wavelength that you guys are on a bra a brain wavelength we talked about that the other night at a Texas Roadhouse with my boys it's the best place to talk about something like that by the way Texas Roadhouse rues [ __ ] slaps yeah it's so good they get they they always get their meats from small independent Farms that aren't owned by like huge uh imported companies MH that come in and buy up all the land in Texas and them little rolls with the cinnamon butter Jesus Christ oh man they just keep them coming too they'll they'll have Sweat Beads running down their head running you fresh rolls that's how hard they're working on in there them boys were like um oh man I shouldn't ate so many rolls I can't eat all my steak and I'm like [ __ ] glad I'm not Afflicted with these issues you better man up son you're in Texas Roadhouse I'm glad I don't have these problems you're telling me you didn't clear out before this yeah dude but no but like that was that was one crazy that was a that was a fun time there's been some bad times where I had a roommate at the time who we did a lot together and it got to the point to where if I was doing it and he wasn't there for it he would always come home pissed off like who you didn't nothing nothing for me that's like when you eat dinner without your girlfriend nothing for me you know what mean oh you already ate dinner oh oh so wait we were on season two last night but you're on season 4 now um oh oh why thought we were supposed to watch that together your cocaine buddy is actually like your your your girlfriend I mean you said that you got three bags and now I only see one yeah so what were you doing yesterday I see the plate is on the table why is the plate on the table it stays in the drawer look at me when I'm talking to you Yonder yeah no but seriously like that no but seriously but uh that was a thing and that's honestly the main reason why I stopped was because I was like dude this isn't fun anymore but at the end I started getting uh really a really good deal on some really good [ __ ] that turned out to be meth oh that's why it was so good they're towards the end they're towards the end we were doing meth playing rumy Just cards just like what is Ry again what what are you saying while you're playing it like it's not like [ __ ] right no Ry is like you have to do everything in sets of Threes but you have like someone has like okay um you get all the you get like what seven cards in your hand and then you're like okay I'm going to lay down a three four five not suited and then they're like ah okay all right so 345 not suited that means that [ __ ] I had 3 three three over here so I can't get four threes I can lay down down my three threes here and that's points you get points per card I know this is a crazy yeah I'm not good with numbers and stuff well no this is just just just cards right so like uh uh basically if you have like you can do like three of a kind four of a kind but you can also do suits but everything comes in threes so you could do 7 eight n or if you have three sevens in your hand you can do three sevens but if someone has three sevens and you have one seven you can say I'm going to play this seven with those three sevens so these are my points those are your points but I'm playing this off of that getting points off the matching matching numbers that right so that closes out with kind of like no okay I was going to say it's kind of like Uno but no it's not it's it's sort of similar but like it's a point system so you like okay I it's it's card games are how would you play that on meth if you know the if you if you know how to play it it's it's I mean it's a fun time and we would always play to like a thousand we would play to like a thousand points so that's that's like sometimes three four hours but um but yeah that was that was the thing and and and I would obviously uh I mean I kept a bag in my pocket pretty much all the time so like I was doing key bumps in the bathroom and I'd go back on stage and uh like this this was all during gigs too MH like it was it was just that was my life so you went from the powder to the pepper yeah yeah you went from the powder to the pepper dude yeah from yeah I literally which which which one do you think is really that much better for you you know like the powder at least you're not getting the calories right at least you're not getting the sugar intake what's worse the Su the sugar or the or the cocaine I mean honestly it's apples and oranges really is cuz I mean I think that anything like that or anything can become that if you're an addict and I'm an addict like no doubt um so anything that I do I'm addicted to it like anything that I do that I like it's almost like a a Tourette tick something that I can't help like I'm an addict I I I want this thing like right now I'm addicted to the YouTube stuff like where I'm streaming and and that's that's by the way you're killing it on YouTube Follow Yonder you guys on YouTube he just recently crushed a th right th000 Subs you're monetized we're monetized fully now what are you doing on there uh right now I'm streaming Red Dead too um but I I bet that's fun to watch you stream that I bet you do do some voices and stuff yeah I do the I do a good bit of voices on there but it's fun because I get to take out all the anger I have towards the homeless on the people in that game I I I did want to Circle back on this and that's all that's some I've been talking about on stage lately is like I I want to kill homeless people in real life but I have Immaculate control so I don't I'm 100% with you but in Red [Music] Dead there are no rules wild in red Red Dead I can I can go up to the homeless guy outside of the Valentine Post [Laughter] Office who's asking for a little money and pull my gun on him and pointed at his face and then he says whoa whoa Mister whoa mister and then I'm like no whoa mister and then I just pulled the trigger until I until I until then I have you know you can't shoot the homeless in the game what yeah no way not even joking there's a thing like I point the I can point the gun but then click but then I have to like it doesn't it's like the same thing they do with the kid characters in the game too kind of you can kill the kids no you can't but can you hog time the homeless can you hog time and throw them on the train tracks yeah you can hog time that's a thing I think that'd be fun dude yeah the homeless hog tie Texas had the homeless hog tie uh law you could just hog time you can't hurt him but you could hog time and just leave him somewhere yeah I think that uh [ __ ] I think that uh uh yeah they they got some somebody woke was making the [ __ ] game oh for sure cuz there's that whole thing about the women the women's right to vote which is actually kind of funny because I think that you could just like run them over or something like yeah but I'm I'm playing a high honor character a high honor role which means that uh I can um I can uh like I just drove their [ __ ] wagon into town for him and protected him against the cousins against the [ __ ] braith weights yeah those shitty braith weights but I'm sorry to derail you dude you said you were uh you're an addict and so so anything like that so the Dr Pepper really took place of the cocaine if it's not not really because I didn't drink soft drinks for a long time like the thing that took place of the cocaine honestly was podcasting uh that was when I got serious about my show and uh like that was in 2017 and I got in to kill Tony around 2018 so once I got into kill Tony I started like that was my thing so I was podcasting and then when I got into Kil ton like comedy started being it and I was like okay so this is the thing so so podcasting airgo comedy took over for cocaine got addicted to the Hang kind of whether it was online or yeah by the way yeah I want to like this do it dude but yeah it is interesting how it doesn't even have to be a substance or sugar or anything it's like something can just take that for people cuz I I I probably have you know an addictive personal maybe too and I have uh you know I'm addicted to [ __ ] nicotine and and I like to smoke weed and I think I'm addicted to the Hang too a little bit but um but you know I I do see how people that are act like have actual bad addiction problems how they kind of replace it with something whether that thing is healthy or not yeah usually you kind of have to it yeah it's not a choice whatever you get into you're going to become addicted to it no matter what you want to do the trick is is to know that is to know that this is an addiction and I probably only have X amount of time with it because my brain is going to rationalize it as such and then any any addiction that you have if you if you've quit things you're going to quit this too so I just have to know like you just have to rationalize hey one day I'm I'm going to lose the whe to do this stuff and and but I just have to appreciate it while it's happening but I don't know because that that's that's the case with volatile things right so the good things you end up keeping but like the soft drinks I know that's not a great thing to be into so one day I'm just going to be like you know what I'm done with this it's such a slippery slope I've switched just Canada Dry lately and I've I've been doing exclusively Canada Dry Ginger Ale because that's like that's ginger ale is like a it's like a hybrid almost I don't know is it it still has 30 gr of sugar in it 26 but who's counting yeah I'll take it but no it's like that's the kind of thing that uh I'm like well if I'm doing just one thing like what if I keep it to just Canada Dry what if I keep it to just Ginger then I feel a little bit better about it because there's no caffeine and it doesn't give me the heartburn so bad is this what we're yes um um it doesn't give me the heartburn so bad it's a slippery slope with that dir dirty little soda Dudez like I won't have one for months like you're saying but then I'll go to In-N-Out you know and what's an In-N-Out Burger without a nice tall ice cold Coca-Cola only the first one too the refill never is good the refill on the coke never is good that that second one yeah I it's always the first one that's just oh it just hits and it's just ice cold and just burns your [ __ ] throat on the way down yeah I know and then and then you're at the store and you're like in the in the aisle where I normally only get sparkling water at HB and then I just happen to 180 and I just see the Coke sixpack and I go why not you know I just had one it was good why not and then it's in your house and then it's then it's in your house it's available at all times that's the thing that could make soft drinks more dangerous than the coke because you can get that from HB that's true you can't get Coke from HB like like powder you can't get powder from over there that's I'm sure there's somebody that works at HB that's lling cocaine in the back the bathroom oh on their break sure like the butcher is not just cutting Meats up back there he's got cutting bricks up to yeah dude he's he's cutting that [ __ ] up with that baby laxitive like but um yeah so if I could stay away if I could stay away from the so sodas I'd probably lose 30 lbs mhm cuz you're not drinking you're not getting that beer Weight no and and that's one thing that they don't tell you about when you quit drinking is how much sugar is in alcohol so when you quit drinking if you drank heavily your body's going to Crave candy yeah candy and for me it was soft drinks I was talking to Rocky Dale Davis about this a couple weeks ago where he was like man I can't stop eating because he quit drinking as well and he can't stop eating candy oh yeah soft drinks aren't his thing but it's candy dude just you don't don't realize how much sugar is in booze until you stop and your body is craving that replacement from something that it was getting a lot of if they could just get fix that if they could give us some kind of natural some kind of a nicotine pouch that's like a a counter ax the sugar craving but it's not giving you sugar you know what I mean some some chemical there's got to be a way it's not like it's like our bodies are just wired to just like crave the [ __ ] out of sugar 100% and see that's the thing can't the nicotine I have to be careful with because uh I get I can't it's hard for me to even hit blunts when people roll blunts cuz the tobacco really [ __ ] me up yeah it give it gets me uh it's like a vegan taking a bite of meat or something like some somebody that quit something for a long time and when they hit it again it makes them sick yeah kind of but it the the tobacco like it it gives me like this this vocal thing that I don't normally have and this cough MH that I don't normally get from just regular regular flower like it's like a oh my God I can't catch my breath yeah cough did you roll that joint yeah dude you roll the best joints look at that [ __ ] look at this machine quality did you roll it by hand yeah no way yeah before we lit it it's kind of wrinkled now but before we lit this thing it was it looked like a looked like a maror red just like the like a perfect americ look like a Lucky Strike from from the 70s and from Vietnam I like I I like uh I like being good at things that people don't really value anymore you know I like being really good at yeah like uh like boy this this guy this guy could really F fix a fence or uh are you good at that no no but uh but no I I I think rolling rolling joints is like people don't really do that [ __ ] no more everybody's cuz now they make the tubes that you can just pack the [ __ ] down in but then that turns everything into like this baseball bat but then you got at the end of The Joint it's a lot of weed and then when you inhale it all the KE builds up down here to this funnel at the end so when you get to this part of the joint on that it starts to Gunk up in here and then you can't it's better to keep it fully cylindrical like like perfectly even like the same size on each end that's why cigarettes burn so well yeah and that's why this is burning kind of evenly instead of running all the way down and they always [ __ ] run I hate those big big joints bring back small joints dude bring back cigarette Siz joints we don't need a bigint it still be a big joint big joints suck it can still be a big joint just so long as the front is the same size as the back yeah it could be the size of a [ __ ] toilet paper roll I just I just grind up an x amount of whatever and then whatever size it comes out that's what it comes out to but sometimes they get big yeah uh but it's that nobody's nobody's really doing that much anymore I like to roll and I take my time doing it everybody else is just like oh it took you long enough to do it I'm like yeah look at it it's a work of art it really is this is my art it is it's nice it really is you should you should like start charging charging the rich comics for like a a handrolled pack of 20 perfect joints I like to do that man but I I burn off the ends like I just burn the end of it off like a joint cobbler kind of yeah I'd like to be that dude that would be sick if you had a [ __ ] workbench had everything you needed well honestly I have my I keep my all my kid what's in your bag of tricks show us your bag of tricks here it's get you got it for people listen you have a Crown Royal I believe it's a Crown Royal Apple bag this is actually uh uh everybody always is curious the main thing that's in here is this the uh this is the zigzag microphone whoa It's that ground Royal fuzz in the end of it this plugs into my phone this plugs into my phone no way and this is awesome this is actually a gift from my buddy bony who you know bony who makes the book bonai Adrian kazos um but zigzag gave this to him and they were like hey give this to somebody who you who you who you think will use it and I'm that guy that's from zigzag yeah dude they followed me on Instagram and [ __ ] like like weed royalty yeah and I'm like holy [ __ ] that's [ __ ] awesome they followed you on Instagram yeah dude Fanboy moment this is you got to go around ask people can you roll a joint you know what I mean and just try and can you roll a joint standing up all these people on Sixth Street just like have some fake weed or something you know what I mean some some tobacco you know how well can you roll a joint what else you got in there uh a a power bank power bank that's your little man purse do you keep a Crown Royal bag cuz it reminds you like you don't want to drink again did you ever did you ever think about that that's you carry a Crown Royal bag around never really thought about it uh I just this is the it's like the perfect vessel it's like a little Wizard's pouch wizard pouch I think this is the earliest form of pockets that we pretty much had yeah it is it is like a little inv like you keep your inventory in it in the video game MH your little it's like how would you guys have been surprised if you saw like a [ __ ] like if it were just endless and just like you're just like you pull this stuff out which this is already kind of an unbelievable amount of [ __ ] to pull out of this bag like when you pulled this out that I kind of had that thought like it was a kind of Merry poppy you're like I have I have this arm goes in there like you pull out like a [ __ ] you pull out a volcano a volcano bag of weed yeah but no I keep like some a small amount of like ground up weed in here which isn't hardly anything right now but then I have my little rolling pouch there's a little there's a pouch in here that has some weed in it and then my rolling papers and I'll show you the trick here's the secret to my success oh [ __ ] you're going to you're going to show us right now show us how it's done here just put that out for a minute I'm stoned on this one here I don't want [Music] to I'm just going to you just set it in here yeah there we go well thanks for coming back on the Pod Yonder by the way I'm always it's always a treat to have you here man you bring me great peace Brother you bring great peace among the scene here oh what is that that's the secret to my success whoa It's a roller a poker and a roller not a roll oh it's just a poker stick this is just a poker just a packer I don't even think I that that looks custom is that a shishkabob stick it used to be a chopstick but I broke it in half and I sand it off this end you have so much time on your hands to do sh well this was this was this I've had this stick for probably no no lie four or five years damn like dude it's I've had it that long wow Old Reliable oh you can Fe wow and it's firm waxy almost almost has a waxy feel to like a yeah it feels like it's coated I guess it was a chopstick yeah it was a chopstick but uh yeah I got I don't even know if this will little ASMR dude little joint joint rolling ASMR here on the gorast yeah all sensories must repeat is that what that stands for nope oh Auto sensory motor recognition no what's what does ASMR stand for T this is going to be the tiniest joint of all time because I hardly have any weed uh little Pinger yeah but that's the thing is like okay so I don't have a lot in here but I want it to be be sort ofous sensory Meridian response yeah that's what I said weird yeah that's basically what you said mhm Meridian response roll it twist it put it up to the microphone here's what we're going to do this is this is prime podcasting dude rolling a joint quiet L with Yonder wizard I don't care what anyone says this rules you guys rolling a joint quietly with Yonder is the name of my autobiography rolling a joint quietly it's just like uh it's just the Diaries of uh the the inner monologue of a antisocial Stoner Diary of a Mad Black homeless woman that is interesting that you're that you're an introvert but you're not antisocial you know what I mean well I like to talk yeah I I really enjoy the communication aspect of life a lot and it bothers me when other people don't communicate I'm in a situation where communication is necessary and it's not happening and in another alternate part of my life and it is the most infuriating thing on the face of the Earth like with a friend or something yeah and they and you're they're just like like what's going on they're like nothing but you know something's going on no not even that it's just like uh hey we need a response about something and there's no response coming this is the worst that I've ever done cuz I I the the you had no weed to work with here well that's the the the trick is supposedly that you're you're supposed to have a lot that thing would look like complete mush if I had it in my hands so look at that you could that probably still looks nice enough to hold up and show off given the the small amount of weed that you that you could roll into it wow you're really crafting it yes see like you got to just you're really this is going to be like a little little dog walker they call them but then you got to take the filters the filter is probably going to be longer than the joint um but I I like to take them apart and double them up whoa some real Tech I to take them apart and double them up and then you twist into like the little W there mhm kind of like uh like one of them fans that you make in school yeah kind of and then just like twist all that off into like a nice little filter and it's usually the perfect size to and you can look at the thing and be like okay this looks like the nicer side and then there's like a roll wow and then it just goes in and now it's just a perfect just just a Lucky Strike dude look at that thing even even given given the the short amount of time and the short amount of the small amount of weed look at that little thing hold it up just so people can see the the Integrity it's not done yet oh then you got to you got sing it and then W look at that technique so you're lighting the the extra look at that little thing dude that's impressive and then the trick a quick a quick spit coat a spit shine what is this so you really make love to it before you smoke it I like it have you seen those videos of those guys just like deep throating a whole blunt look at that little look at the Integrity of that dude that's like a little what of those little marbs called the little tiny short ones this is like cigarette like this is like a cigarette from that Bruce Willis movie a pack of red apples uh [ __ ] what was that [ __ ] called uh with Chris Tucker where they're in space or whatever Fifth Element they have those cigarettes where they're trying to you you remember what I'm talking about look pull up Fifth Element cigarettes T they like are trying to quit they have this machine that like it's supposed to help you quit smoking cigarettes or something and they give you a smaller and smaller and smaller one every time oh that's hilarious Fifth Element cigarette but yeah that's my uh hit images yeah yeah look they're like all filter oh [Laughter] yeah yes I love it they're so tiny and they're like all filter look at that that's going to be great I'm going to enjoy the [ __ ] out of that thank you y may I can I have this of course that's yours wow you put all that love into it well it's and that's not that's not as if I'm not if I'm just sitting at home my computer desk while I got a YouTube video going and I'm just I've got my whole situation there they turn out a little better if I'm taking my time in the green room but we're but that's what's always in my bag for everybody who's curious in the in we didn't even get into the bottom half of it you didn't even start pulling out the lamps and [ __ ] yeah well I didn't want to have to move the truck uh we oh we were talking uh I had Brent Reed in here a while back we were doing BR Bama Brent we were doing uh shout out Brent Reed we were doing uh Southern colloquialisms oh and I feel like you might have a few of those do you have a few of those locked and loaded anything you can think of like you know uh uh what is it you could you can [ __ ] I can't remember any of them right now what's that one uh uh you can you you you you ever had a dream no but like uh um you can put you you can put your boots in the oven but that don't make them biscuits that's one that Brent gave us you could put your boots in the oven but that don't make them biscuits yeah something like that you can't get blood out of a turnup uh yeah uh let's see I swear on a I swear on a stack of Bibles tall as me that's what I saw that's a good one uh from like uh dude uh come hell or high water good Lord willing the creek don't rise um there's just so many good ones I wish there was a book there's got to be a book of them somewhere I like old things that people used to say that they don't say no more Yonder is one of those things man like that's I really like that word I really like the whole is that why you adopted it I I adopted it because like it was just when I it was one of those things where it when I first created my Instagram page it was in like 2013 and back then Instagram would be like if you're having trouble thinking of a name you know think of two things that you like and just mix them together you know just and and like for example if you liked the band The Red Hot Chili Peppers and you like the movie Pulp Fiction then you could go red hot Pulp Fiction or red hot pulp or red fiction or something like that and I was like okay well I really like the Yonder Mountain String Band and I'm a huge Harry Potter fan so like maybe Yonder wizard cool easy enough bam created the account yada yada that was my Instagram handle start but then you became Yonder wizard yeah and I I I didn't I don't know I was really into it but then that's when I joined it's always been my username ever since M everything ever since I did that on Instagram that that was just okay this is what I this is my username Now everywhere and I just it was always available I never had to put any numbers or anything behind it the way I spell it it's always available so uh I that was my name in VR chat so redband started calling me Yonder redband was the one that called me Yonder all the Discord people called me Yonder and then when I came out here here he was the one that started everybody was like ah Yonder wizard Yonder Wizard's here and I was introducing myself as Kelsey I signed up all the mics is Kelsey like that was my that was my thing when I first got here but then everybody was like your name's Kelsey I thought you were Yonder and then after a while I just kind of leaned into it and I was like you know what y I am Yonder and then that that became a thing now it's been that for however long now it's weird when you like you're not Kelsey to me I know this this past weekend my buddies were in town and I'm Kelsey to them like the old school homies so they were all like uh they were all they they they call me Kelsey the whole time heartburns almost subsided the doctor the doctor's coming back for you dude he had probably had something to do with the bacon King sandwiches as well maybe the onion rings I don't know now I'm getting hungry dude I'm gonna have to hit the King after this but yeah uh but yeah the Kelsey I think it it's it's once somebody finds out like wait your name's what I'm like yeah it's kind of an unconventional male name too it really is the one of the most unconventional male names and that's just for a regular male like your name should be Randy or something not me I feel like I I don't know my middle name is uh my middle name is Phillip and that doesn't even feel like you could be a pH that doesn't even no it doesn't even feel right it doesn't even feel right you get it it doesn't even feel right good one hit the Applause button tooed the orange one no but uh turn the slider up I'm just kidding to worry about n that don't even feel right uh but yeah it's I think that your name kind of does doeses change things about you because uh no one's ever like in benville South Carolina there's not a Kelsey that is a dude but it made people treat me differently I think my whole life so it kind of got me set up to be to expect that people were going to treat me differently so now when people treat me differently and like a hey I recognize you kind of way it's like this has happened my whole life I've always kind of been treated like wait your name's Kelsey yeah it always sort of made me popular in a way that was like because it was rare it's interesting it created Rarity talking it's an icebreaker yeah did did you ever get bullied or anything for having it for for your name being Kelsey like call like a girl's name or anything like that when you were a kid yeah a little bit when I was a kid but then I uh became a giant yeah and nobody wanted to mess with you yeah and then you were drinking and slapping people well that was a thing but it was uh we talked about that on the other podcast yeah I I used to slap people when I got drunk that's how I knew I was doing it right um but yeah I uh I got so big early like I've always even in even in like kindergarten I've always been at the back and all the way to the right you know in all the school pictures like i' I was always the tallest biggest kid in my class always and um um yeah that it nobody made fun of you nobody wanted to pick a bone with you dude and I'm not to toot my own horn I've always been kind of cool yeah like kind of with everybody chill yeah I've always been been pretty chill I haven't wanted to like uh I don't know there's been a couple of times where I've I've gotten into a like like little pushing round fights but like it was always like it literally felt like someone like me trying to knock a tree down and that's just kind of what it was like yeah and it never ended well for anybody else and then there was a time when I was uh when I was managing the bar down in Merl's Inlet where I had to like get a few people out and that was never a problem but that I never really got into any kind of like real fight no tussles yeah never got into any real fights because they didn't want to mess with you I I I think that that's part of it but I also think that like I've I've also been kind of avoidant of that because I didn't want to I'm scared I'll hurt somebody yeah and that I don't want to hurt anybody MH but uh I've definitely had to ragd doll a few people out of the bar before back home that's always fun yeah pick them up over your head throw him out oh no I mean I'm just I I don't know I I I had this thing where I would just walk up behind somebody and grab their shoulders and just move them where I need them to go they would just paralyze and you're just and if they if they stopped then I would usually just just transferring files yeah pretty much like that's exactly what I'm just drag and drop yeah dude I'm going to control C you here and I'm going to control V you here yeah I'm going to copy and paste your ass yeah uh yeah but I that that's the thing and if they any kind of resistance I would just nope nope you're very you're a very passive a very passive strong man nope I couldn't imagine you just getting [ __ ] couldn't imagine you seeing red it's not fun tell you that much but it's happened oh it's happened but when you were drinking maybe yeah I was drinking one night there was a guy who um you ever you ever hear that show um [ __ ] Party Down South it was a shitty television show I think it came out you pull up Google Images T Party Down South yeah Party Down South like it was a thing they did I I forget what it might have been on CMT or something but they were filming a season in Merl's Inlet My Town back home and one night they were at the bar that I managed Uncle Tito and um they uh the one of the guys that worked on the crew yeah season one of party down south was was like uh here go down to this one down here down yeah that down on the right maybe the big dude no no no this was a guy on the um on the crew he wasn't oh was it like the real world where they did different cities yeah okay type in what Myrtle Beach Merl's Inlet Merl's Inlet M Ur r r e l LS Merl's Inlet and then uh uh oh yeah there they go one of these Chads got squirly with you no it was honestly a guy that was on the crew and he just got blackout drunk and uh so it's like the real world or something yeah hey that's uh is that what is that what it was they put him in a house or something I've never heard of this they were in a house it was like a real world um but yeah they uh that's Maddie over there in the green she was awesome um anyway yeah they they put them all in the house real world style this one guy on the crew came up and he was blackout drunk apparently it was like the anniversary of his dad's death or something like that and he was blackout and he started he started like like pushing people around and then it got to the everybody knew everybody there so those guys were Outsiders and it was one of those things small town so a lot of the guys that were regulars at the bar started walking around and being like hey you know you're not I'd be careful if I were you you're not amongst friends kind of thing you know you're not we don't right we don't [ __ ] around against us buddy there's more of us than there is you and then I saw everybody else start moving in and my situation was in South Carolina and and plus in this town I knew every cop I knew everybody so if and no matter I knew who was working that night I knew who was going to show up and I could just be like everybody knew me from managing the club but also being in the band so I was like hey this is what happened everything's fine don't take the got of jail whatever but so I went out there and he had by this point pulled a knife and I wasn't threatened because it was a Swiss army knife and I don't know how to explain it but that wasn't scary cuz it was a Swiss army knife like right it's it's a little it's a kid child's toy it's a child's play thing it it was red like how how how much more nonthreatening could you be be scared of a red knife hey hey get back you like miss it the first time you missed the fingernail thing the first time yeah what are you going to trim my cuticles yeah here to give me the one we have one right there you're toss it to me oh no see this is that's like an Oldtimer yeah oh yeah but just imagine this is like a red child's toy it's like hey wait hey get that's actually an Oldtimer isn't it get back is that an actual Oldtimer I don't know what this is let me see it um but he had a red pocket knife and he was swinging it at you or what yeah he had a red pocket knife and he was kind of swinging it at everybody but um I went out and I grab I grabbed his hand I had the knife in it and I squeezed it until he dropped the knife and then I grabbed the back of his neck and kicked his feet out from under him and buried his face into the gravel out front and I told him that he was going to calm down down and that was his only option see I just can't picture you doing that dude yeah you're just a different guy Now isn't that weird how it's just like like I feel like uh Merill Inlet Yonder is just not the same Kelsey from marilinda is not is is not Yonder from from Austin tell Kelsey hudgin you talk About A Boy Named Sue you know it it it does that that make you tough thing that is kind of a that's a thing I mean I'm I'm emotionally soft sometimes I think because I did a lot of experimental drugs when I was coming up but otherwise like I got pretty tough pretty quick MH out there being named Kelsey yeah so it only took one time for people to figure out not to bring not to bring that up well that's the thing about being great at anything is all people have to do is see you do it once for you to be that you know so I try to do the same thing musically like I I'll kind of for secret shows I kind of phone it in a little bit Yeah on some on most of them to be honest just because I'm not really you don't want to steal the show well no not just not that I don't I I I kind of do want to steal the show but it's it's it's more to me about like I can't set an expectation to my audience that I'm not always going to meet right like I don't want to turn it all the way on every time CU then they'll expect that every time they'll expect that every time and you're kind of just also trying to chill and play music and have fun still you don't want to be sweating like oh this has to be my my performance of a lifetime every time I mean not that you don't do the best you can do every time but you get what I'm saying it's like you don't and I don't do the best I can do every time yeah like by Design purposefully like I intentionally don't do the best that I can do every time just because I I it's a knob for me I can turn it all the way on if I like sometimes I turn it all the way on like if there's somebody in the room I'm trying to show off for like I'll I'll turn it all the way on there was a time we had a show uh Bobby flacko did a a Bobby and friends from another hour from nether hour yeah Bobby did a Nether and Friends nether hour I mean a b a [ __ ] Bob flacko and friends at uh Sunset and I just so happened to be upstairs for it and normally I'm just like n you you got you you kids have fun you know like you guys you guys have fun you know but this night Tony was there and Kim conden was there to turn it on for him and Brian Holtzman popped in and like there was like there was a few like there was a few people there who I was like okay let's let's do it yeah let's do this thing we're putting the fancy clothes on tonight and you know I got up there with with the hair down and the fan blowing the fan wasn't on like there so I mean it was just like yeah but I knew the fan wasn't blowing so I moved it myself you know like I I yeah you were I was not really but it was I did the thing I I turned it all the way on mhm I turn I literally turned it all the way on and it was just like I I was just I looked up like through my hair and I look up and I just see like Holzman and Kim and Tony and those guys just kind of like you got them I got him nice I got him and then like now I think that they like view they view they'll view me differently now I think which Tony had already seen it kind of um because I got up and jammed with nether hour a couple times way back at Vulcan you're basically passed is a musician in their eyes they're like oh yeah yonder's a good [ __ ] rock solid musician well yeah but I mean they they're like oh I so they're the they'll see somebody who gets into comedy and comes in and they're like oh this guy's struggling a bit like what what what's the deal here but then they'll like see the one thing like and then they're like oh that's his thing okay yeah I see now but Tony had already kind kind of knew that cuz I sent Tony videos of me doing some Pink Floyd solos from back home so he knew that I could do that then but seeing it in person I think is a whole different thing that's a whole different Beast yeah and for people that don't know what we're talking about too that are just just you know tuning in to you and stuff and who you are red band does The Secret Show most people know what that is and you'll you'll open the secret show with music right night most nights every Thursday every Thursday now yeah used to alternate it with the band I think yeah well it was NE nether hour and trace of line used to alternate and then uh nether hour picked up a residency on Thursday night at Copperhead Club I think so they couldn't do Thursdays anymore so I started covering for nether hour and um then I was alternating with trace of lime so every other week it would be me every then trace of lime and that was always a good time and but then trace of lime I had to cover them for like a couple of months MH and then be after covering them for a couple months their lead singer ended up having to have some surgery on his vocal cords so I just kind of started doing them every week and then they came back and did a couple more here and there but um yeah it ended up being just me and plus they're a full band and having a whole band plus like girlfriends and such in The Green Room versus having just me and yeah buddy they know yeah I think that that is a more it's your territory now it's your territory no no no and there's nothing about territory or anything like that I don't want to think of it like that yeah but uh but yeah it's just I I really that's my little one day of one day a week I get to do the thing that I'm here to do and that's hang out with the people that I used to see on Instagram and play rip some music and then you go up and do comedy too now on on some of them right no I us a creu show um that they do at Sunset yeah I do that that's actually tonight oh nice um but yeah that's uh that'll be tonight I I uh do in between songs I'll I'll do a couple of jokes kind of do what I always did back home right which is my version of phoning it in where I'm like I'll choose a few songs okay these are the ones I'm going to do tonight and then just in between I'll just talk to the crowd try to warm them up get them in the get them in the habit of like joke laugh joke laugh make them chuckle and then rip song try to and then I'll play it and that's the one thing I like to do I don't like to do uh funny like I I can I can be funny when I'm doing songs but I don't care to do funny songs right I like to do real songs that's tough there's only a few people that can nail the funny song thing I mean is if you don't nail it it's bad yeah yeah like if you go up there with the with the intention of being funny like you can miss that Mark mhm even if you're a great musician but if you want to go up there and like change the way somebody feels in anyway that's an easy Mark to hit if you're a good musician MH so I'd rather do a serious song and then try to make them laugh in between because if I don't make you laugh in between well here's another well then they already trust you they're like this guy's good at what whatever he's doing up there cuz he played a good song you know what I mean and they trust you like you they you kind of got them you know what I mean that's the sort of the uh uh what's the word I want to use what happened it's a safeguard kind of it's a little Safeguard but it's also like the same uh [ __ ] I I I I love words and I know there's a perfect word for this where it it that same feeling correlates to what I was for the thing when Tony and them saw me playing and turning it all the way on so it's like okay they trust me so I had to turn it cuz they hardly ever see me like that so when I turn it all the way on now that is like okay you don't just trust me for this moment that I have with you you now just you now trust for life right like I'm up here you know that I'm going to do good and and not only that but I think that it's important to to like to get up there and like I'll I'll see people on a Thursday night that'll come back for a Friday show and I'll be checking them in and they were like hey weren't you up there last night and I'm like I'm like yeah that was fun right and they're like yeah like that that was and who are you well then they're they're like what are you what are you what are you doing here yeah you know what are you doing giving me a wristband for the what are you doing out here are you on are you going to play on this show too and I'm like nah I just do that on Thursdays and then they're like why don't you do like man you're you're [ __ ] good at that why don't you do that more often I was like well because I'm good at it because I know I'm yeah I want to do something hard I want to be challenged I've already beat the game I want to do side quests now yeah I want a 100% the map that's kind of that's kind of a lot how I feel too about and that's not to diminish you know comedy as a side quest it's just that's it's just a new thing for me it's for me I like to think of it instead of a side quest in that same analogy it's a new it's a new character build I'm starting Skyrim over and this time I'm going to be a battle mage last time I was the last time I was a warrior with brute strength this time I want to I want to hang back I want to shoot arrows and cast spells you know what I mean and that's what we're that's what that's why I'm trying to I've already been a Bard it's time to be a wizard yeah I want to be a druid this time yeah you know what I mean I want to do something different and it's fun you know what dude I'm I'm going orc yeah well I feel like the music to me is the orc dude you know what I mean like your music is orc music I guess you're right you're right but uh but yeah that's that's how I felt too is it you could be battle mage music too though yeah I guess if if it was more folk metal yeah yeah I don't know the sub genr is enough to my music is orc music yeah but uh but that is kind of how I feel too and i' it's funny that you say that I've used that same analogy a lot where it's you know with the music thing it's like especially after that last big tour that we did with the big when the big band took us on tour it was like that's [ __ ] that's the main quest right is go on the tour with the Big B and that will that happen again hopefully maybe someday we're going to keep doing music I'm gon to keep never going to stop doing music but now I want to do never G to stop I Ain never GNA stop doing music but now now I want to do this and this is more challenging after over after 14 years of doing music or whatever it's kind of like that's that's become what standup is to these guys that kill oh yeah you know what I mean it's like the muscle memory and so now I want to do the thing that you know of course I'm looking over at the thing going man that [ __ ] looks hard I want to try that yeah you know and so yeah it's been the same thing for me what's it like because this just happened to me too where like I hadn't done a show in a while hadn't done music in a while I know you do it every Thursday but maybe you feel this weekly the same kind of thing but when you're doing standup stand up stand up all the time and you're new at it like I am it's like you know I'm just trying to dial in my [ __ ] 10 minutes you know what I mean I set a goal for this year I wanted to do I wanted to get my five minutes down and I wanted to do more actual shows at venues and more paid gigs and and and you know on top of the mics right and I I passed that [ __ ] Finish Line in March and so now I'm like oh [ __ ] well now we got to adjust the goals right you know what I mean and then and so I've done a bunch more of those shows and little you know just little and now I have like seven solid minutes right and so I'm like now I got to work on the tent so it's like it just keeps building up you know what I mean but there's a lot of eating [ __ ] in that process which which I don't know about other folks but you and I don't eat [ __ ] when we play music we just don't we there's no it's not it's not an OP it's not an ingredient in our in our in our cupboard there's no [ __ ] in our cupboard you know what I mean it's like and when I go up when we go up there we demolish and it's like I did that I did the same and it's not even to like you know toot my own horn it's just what it's what I've been doing if I if I didn't do that there'd be something wrong that's ex what it's what I've been doing and if I I'd be doing something wrong if after over a decade of doing it I wasn't great at it it would be weird it would be bad I would should have quit and and so it's like it's weird to after not after doing the standup and eating [ __ ] and you're like oh well you know we Al always says you know T taste good eating [ __ ] taste good you know what I mean just you got to get the Reps in and stuff and but it's it's rough it's not the same uh feeling of it's not the same dopamine rush it is it it is and it isn't like it's not as potent of a dopamine Rush as when maybe when you play music because you're killing every time when you're playing music but then with standup it's like you get the rush of going up but then it's sometimes swiftly met with a punch to the jaw you know what I mean and you're like oh yeah I [ __ ] suck at this oh yeah I've only been doing this for a year and a half and then but to get up on stage after a six months of doing that a year of doing that and no music and then to rip a show soldout show in my hometown oh man I feels so [ __ ] good and it just reminded me it's like all right so how long have I been doing the music thing over 10 years okay so maybe when I'm there maybe that's like then I came back to Austin ready to eat [ __ ] at a mic cuz I know that hopefully in 10 years it'll be better you know what I mean mean I like I I feel like I get more out of a really good comedy set than I do a really good music set totally 100% because I know like you said I there's you remember how Dave Chappelle talked about the uh uh man I'm so good it is you know it's like I never think this is going to go bad like every time get on stage I think this is going to go this is going to go well yeah I'm not there yet with comedy I'm not there yet with comedy but I've been there for years musically yes yeah for like I mean like I started doing this thing when I was 13 years old started my first band when I was 13 me and my buddy Chris and uh I've been doing it that long and I will be 38 in a couple months so like that's I've been doing this that long it I've always said just like you say it would be weird if something that I've been doing for over 20 years didn't go well yeah and I don't even remember what it feels like to have the same Sensation that I have before i' go and do five minutes at Maggie Mays to nobody yeah I don't remember what it feels like to have that sensation with music no I do I no it's been it's been too it's been too long for me I think where I don't remember like you know maybe a a second of it right before I go on stage but it's like most of the time it's like all right we're going to go [ __ ] do this thing yeah you know what I mean it's pretty chill but it's like that's maybe I think what I'm chasing with standup is the but them butterflies cuz I get them every time even when I'm going up at an open mic and there's not a lot of people there it's like you know what I mean is this going to go well like you said well that I think is the that is is how you'll get to the the punch in the face and then that thing starts saying you suck at this you're not you're not ready for this you're not doing this thing so what I've started and Patrice said it a long time ago man is you got to be comfortable with the silences you might end up you might just not be at your punchline yet you the thing that you think is funny might not be the funny part of your joke mhm and that's the hard part that I had to learn learn is sometimes and to expect sometimes they're going to laugh in a spot where I don't expect them to and if that happens then that's just where your funny is and then that then now your punchline is a tag they'll tell you they will MH they'll tell you but I I do my best to like and I don't I'm not conventional with how I do it like I don't have like a okay I'm going to do this this this and this I rarely ever have my notes open before a set I I like hardly ever open my notes before set ever and because the second I look through them and I just see oh no there's just too much decision so I'll have a couple of ideas where I'm just going to go out there and I'm going to say something and see how this goes and hopefully they laugh at it and if they don't then we'll try again next time but I try my best to when I open my phone that all I have open as my voice recorder M and uh I just start recording right before they introduce me and I go out and I say something usually jarring right out of the gate or something that I hope is funny like I I got an opener I've been using lately that I know Works mhm and I get come out there and get them with a quick laugh and then I just go into whatever I have like four or five topics that I can choose from now that I've been trying to sharpen the edges off of and it just I don't know just I I I try not to think about it I try not to think about I try not to give myself the potential for it to go bad I remove that as an option like it's not it like I don't think that this like if they don't laugh Maybe it's not bad maybe it's not bad if they don't laugh like I know that's the goal that's what you're supposed to do but what if you're just going up there and them not laughing is sharpening your joke yeah it's yeah it's teaching that's just part of it like it's not the it's not each individual set it's the collective it's not transactional it's not a transactional relationship with the crowd where where laugh equals I did good or because that's well I mean it does but but it but maybe I'm trying to understand what you're saying I guess okay to them it is like okay so if they're not laughing maybe they maybe they're not getting anything out of this but I know okay me doing this joke like this maybe I was looking at the ground too much maybe I was maybe maybe they they found me dishonest in something that I said but you learn that about yourself so that in turn makes something that you would normally say that went bad that makes it good is learning from whatever it was the experience it's is valuable there's me there's meat to the experience even if it's it's not a total loss it's not a perfect Pelt but we still got the meat yeah the carcass was poor you've been playing Red Dead too much yeah I know my analogies are all red dead now um but no I I I enjoy that like but Patrice said this thing that I I bring up a lot you have to be comfortable in the silences because maybe and if you say something and you're trying to be funny and the crowd doesn't laugh and then you sit and wait for a second then you just told the crowd hey that was my joke and you didn't laugh at it so now they're double doubling down not getting what you're talking about if you just move past it after they don't laugh they just think okay it's coming yeah and that just mean it's not here yet that just means we're not there yet as far as the laugh the funny hasn't gotten there yet I've noticed I do a thing that I just recently realized that I got to stop doing with some of my jokes where it's like when I go to like do some like one of the punchline things or one of the setups you know it's like I'll be I'll individualize a person I'll be like that'd be pretty cool right dude yeah you know what I mean and I thought that that's fun for me cuz I like to see that person's reaction but I think what it does is it makes like it like makes the rest of them feel like left out or something or like I'm not performing it to everybody yeah so it like draws the makes something weird it it it breaks something that that it's always better if I just do it out you know what I mean or if I do acknowledge somebody really quick I move right back cuz that's you know what I mean like you could throw you could say that'd be pretty cool right dude you know what I mean and then and then go right back to the rest of the crowd but what I'll end up doing is like oh that'd be pretty cool right dude and then I do the the rest of the [ __ ] joke to this one dude you know what I mean I'm just staring at this one guy I see performing for this one dude and I think that also probably comes from hitting shitty open mics where there's only one real person that's not a comic in there oh yeah you know what I mean and you're kind of Performing to one guy I think that's like a bad habit it's like sucking your thumb or something you know what I mean it's like a like a baby stage habit because you get used to like okay well there's four people I know that aren't going to laugh at any of [ __ ] cuz they've heard it 20 times you know what I mean so I'm going to just talk to this one guy or this little group of people and then but when you do that when you're at a show and there's 10 15 real people in the whole at the Vulcan or something and then you're just talking to this one guy it's like yeah it doesn't hit the joke doesn't hit the same way I don't know no I'm learning I'm in my baby steps dude I'm having a blast too that's you mentioned something earlier I wanted to touch on is those voices that say you're bad at this and stuff I don't really I don't get those and maybe maybe that's not it's not that I I I don't get like the you suck at this you're you're bad at this like in a negative way it's like you got to keep working on this my voices my voices are more constructed but I know that there's a lot of people that have a bad set when I have a bad set I go I had a bad set I'm going to look over it and I'll make changes or what you know what I mean but it's like it doesn't defeat me the way it defeats some of my friends or some people that just they have a bad set and like it wasn't even that bad you know what I mean and then they'll be like [ __ ] man [ __ ] this is I'm suck or whatever and it's like dude quit beating yourself up about it's like it you know I always Jud I feel like I judge people on two things when I really know they're set you know yeah it's like how how well did did you get through the material sometimes if you're at an open mic it's like the the the crowd isn't a good gauge of how good the material is you know what I mean and then you've seen stuff hit really hard in good rooms or whatever and so I've been like you know how did you get through it did you get through it the way I know would kill for you know from what I've seen and then how did the crowd it's like respond to it there's like two two grading systems I don't know you shouldn't beat yourself up so much just in general if you don't do as good as you want to do on something I agree I I was just kind of making a reference to you saying you get punched in the face and then all of a sudden you're like oh I suck this is going well that's what I me I didn't say that yeah that's what I was that's what I was referencing but uh I feel this I and this is a super controversial thing and I think I've said this every single podcast that we've done together I don't I think that sometimes doing too much open mics is bad for your comedy yeah I I could see that I think that like and and and that's people are like what do you mean open mics are spots you got to do do spots to get better and I get that but I think you got to do spots in front of normal people if you're just going up in front of the same like 20 comedians all the time that ends up doing and maybe I I I I should specify I'm speaking personally from this that makes me feel worse about my material and makes me feel worse about being a comedian I feel the same way and I wonder if that's because we're from music so like our like we're used to having more positive reinforce you know what I mean it like and Show's going well and then that keeps us kind of excited to keep doing it and then when we do when we go hard for a week straight going up four times a night and most of those are at open mics with only the other Comics it makes us and that that nobody's laughing and you're like [ __ ] you know what I mean it's like I don't know it's like I wonder if we're wired a little different than maybe somebody who only does comedy maybe but I've seen it in the scene here where there are comedians who go up every chance they can they're signing up for every single mic they're they're like doing their best to write new material but they're surrounded by their comedy friends who now they're in a they're in a crew and they're surrounded by a bunch of yes men who are like oh that's funny or or your friends are laughing at the stuff that you're saying because it's funny to them because it's an inside joke thing but it's not going to necessarily be good for like a crowd outside of your circle yeah so I see that too much with a lot of the comics that are coming around and I I just kind of look at that as like man after a certain amount of time all of these comedians are just going to sound the same and for somebody who sees as much comedy as I do it's easy for me to notice right it's easier for me to notice like hey dude like this is a echo chamber almost and like it's and and I'm not I'm I'm not speaking about anybody specifically sure but there's just I've noticed that after somebody goes around to a lot of those things all the time and just kind of doesn't try to get better and doesn't have the it becomes like cutting yourself or something it's literally like it becomes kind of thing but you've seen it I know you've seen it it's happened to me where I've gone the weeks that I've G I've always said the weeks that I've gone the hardest you know and put up my reps yeah you know and done a couple times a night for six seven days in a row it's by the end of that seven days I'm doing the worst I've ever done oh dude I'm doing I'm doing the worst maybe I remember stuff really good but I don't really have that much of a problem with that cuz from music you have to remember [ __ ] so it's like you know I remember [ __ ] really good maybe and I'm not saying the whole experience was bad for it's probably really good for me to have that experience but but it's as far as how I'm doing mentally and on St not at the worst after going the hardest so I don't know I don't know what I don't know what that is and sometimes I'll go two weeks and I'll go and somebody put me give me a spot at Vulcan on her show and I'm like oh it's been a week or two since I went and you know since I was going hard maybe a couple days here you know one once or twice a week which is not good but and then and then I'll go up and do good and I'm like oh dude oh like and that's almost do you find that you do that more often than not that you do better after you have gone up for a while kind of I don't want to say I don't want to say it cuz that's a naughty no no you're like you're not supposed to you're not supposed to promote that it's a no no you're not supposed to promote that but but then I'm like but that's my experience though sometimes that's where I think the the the ey that I have with that is in there yeah is that you're not supposed to promote that you're supposed to go up and do all the spots that you can and beg to get on every show that you can get on and I think maybe it's not I think maybe it's not a oniz fit all diet exactly you know what I mean it's not the same for every I don't think it's it's it's like telling somebody what to eat it's like what's your chemical makeup you know what I mean like what's your what is your brain chemistry like maybe it's not good for you to be going out and eating [ __ ] at open mics every single night right three times a night it's not the same for everybody I it's not good for my mental mental but that's but the opposite side of that coin is you get so you get lazy then you then you're then you're leaning on your skills a little bit maybe or something or you're you know what I mean oh I've been doing stage stuff for over 10 years so I have a little you know I'm comfortable or whatever and then you're like oh and then it gets then you go up then I go go up on a show at Vulcan after a week of not doing something and and then it doesn't go as good it's fine I survive but it's not as good as the last time and then I'm like oh well maybe so I need to go a little harder than I was you know what I mean like sometimes those moments where you get that W after not doing not doing it for a minute taking a break from doing the mics or whatever it's like then then you get a little too conf sometimes I don't know my thing is I'm already lazy uh so that's nothing to me at all like I know I'm already [ __ ] lazy um but my thing is I feel like after I don't go up for a while I have this energy that needs to get out so I'll be like man I hadn't gone up in a while dude I got it's it's like see retention yeah kind like retention and then you know and and but when I go up like I usually find that I do well I find that I go up and I do well and it's like I just don't think that I don't think that for me going up every chance that I can is good for me because that's how I lose if I do something too much that's when I lose interest I lose interest when I when I do something too much I'm like ah this okay so this is just I'm phoning it in now every single time just like I do most of my music gigs and I'm not good enough at comedy to just phone it in is that why you don't do music all the time then yeah cuz you see all these PE these guys in these bars you know doing cover songs and I'm like you know Yonder could [ __ ] I could do better than some of these you know what I mean like there's some of these bar music like The people in there playing on a Monday at you know whatever Buckaroo Saloon down there it's like you could easily be one of those guys raking in doing that full-time gigging you could be gig you could be Michael Gonzalez level gigging going on tour with big guys as a guitar you know what I mean but you don't want to do that because you don't all want to go all into one thing or not that but it's like you don't you get lose interest if you go too too far is that true yeah kind of like I doing the music doing the cover thing like dude cornbread hang on to that uh doing the cornbread thing man the ban back home uh it it just we did that we were banned from like 2009 until 20121 so uh we that was a that was enough yeah you know that that's 12 years with the same two dudes doing probably a variation of 30 to 50 songs for 12 years and you know we're sprinkling a couple of new things in here and there or whatever but like that's that's a lot and I lost interest in it and I think that and plus with the agoraphobia that I have where I'm like uh you're familiar with agoraphobia it's like I don't remember what it is it's like you you have a fear of leaving the house oh you have a fear of entering yourself into situations that could problematically go wrong so you automatically set up every single situation as like you start from worst case scenario and backtrack damn with everything that's what you do I have that it's like a form an OCD or something it's it's a tremendous I I have uh not severe OCD but I'm severe ADD uh minor OCD and uh agoraphobia coupled with panic that's the official diagnosis Jesus Christ anything else little bipolar uh only when you're only when he's drinking little paranoid um no but uh but yeah that's all of that I I've marked a few places as my safe space or whatever but like all of that it makes it it it what what everybody else would view is like this is fun we're all of your friends are here we're hanging out like let's go let's go do a mic yeah what is fun for someone else is hell for me yeah and I I and and people like to take it personal like why don't you want to hang out with us and right I never like that's not it's not about that and it's never been about that but people like to make it about that like make it about themselves and like what did I do what you which I think comes from place a care as well they don't want to they don't want to think that they're putting off bad energy and making people not like them or something right but they don't know that you're like dude this is this goes deeper than you brother this deeper than you brother I'm fighting my own demons here every minute you have no idea like I I told muffer Davis the other day like they alcoholics like to say one day at a time but it's one moment at a time and it's that way with everything things are not like on a day-to-day basis or whatever they're a momentto moment basis on like some days everything could be going great but one little thing can fall out of place and the whole house of cards just Falls and when that happens like I I start I fall into a state of panic I don't know what to do I start to like uh it starts to spill over into other people's comfort you know yeah but comedy is a safe place for you from from all that I mean Sunset Strip is a from all that and but there's no place that's like I guess being on stage is a safe place from all of that yeah like just the stage in general because I mean dude that's where I eat mhm I was bred and forged on a [ __ ] stage dude like this is what I do it's true I've seen it so like I I that's a thing a stage is a stage that's it a stage is a stage and a crowd is a crowd people are just people it don't matter where they are but do you feel like you'd be bored if you were just doing music only music all the time cuz I I kind of feel that way too and I think that's and I think that's what comedy is just like a perfect when you told me to go do comedy you're an important person to constantly have back on here to check in with because you you're the one that after that first podcast we did where we totally I botched the the video or whatever you you told me to to you might even told me on that podcast to just you know do it just go and do it you've been doing music just go just go do it I did it but you were also somebody that had done it before that I could look at that enjoyed it was having fun and I'm like okay I'm going to try it and you were like go talk to Alden you know again like the deut Tre you gave me a quest you know what I mean you gave me a quest and you were like you like travel travel to the Lucky Duck and and you'll check in you'll press X to check in with Alden you know and Alden has and he's like well you know welcome it tells you so go do a dick joke it'll go horribly yes that is a good all impression yeah pretty good no you got to do the little you got to do the little Bob he does like a bob with his shoulders sometimes a little bit H big fat [ __ ] oh yeah but the but but yeah I and so I wondered if you felt the same way about that because I feel like it filled a void because I knew I wanted to do something like different but still in the same but like performative but I didn't want to be the guy that was in all the bands you know the guy that has five bands yeah I never want I've always had one band but one I'm a one band man one woman man and a one band man I played with several not a one man band but a one-band man yeah one band man I'm a one band man only one for me man I did I I I there was a time I was playing with cornbread I was playing cornbread's the best band name by the way dude we were always gloss over it but that that that's huge that name could be huge cornbread dude we were regionally famous like it was a thing like we would oh [ __ ] cornbread's coming yeah them corn oh oh man cornbread like and there was a thing where other bands would like mix songs together and they say hey we're going to cornbread this [Laughter] thing no way you were a term yeah you were a verb yeah we were we we were a verb in our scene like in Myrtle's Inlet where we looked up I mean you could you could probably search cornbread Myrtle Beach and like there's like it's there's still like a following out there and we haven't played in in years what time you got to go to work what time you have to get out of here six I could probably get out of here in about half hour we proba been going for a minute how long have you been going to uh 146 yeah we'll keep going for a little bit yeah but just corn not best cornbread in Myrtle Beach just say best got cornbread on the brain dude sounds yummy I'm hungry yeah we're going to have to eat after this what pictures cornbread band Carolina Country Music Fest cornbread that was us hit images see if we can get a promo shot oh yeah that's oh there we go dude see that's all us like all of that wow there he is how you like them legs look at them legs out I've never seen those things before dude how you keep them things covered up hell yeah brother it was a beach band that's [ __ ] rad that's a dude that that painting was sick the uh our symbol over there it our symbol is ovaries in a vagina and a butt plug in between the guitars down below down one yeah see it's ovaries in a vagina mhm and then the butt plug between the guitars oh my God looks like a lava lamp yeah that's it's like one of those psychiatrist things like what do you see when you would you look at like the black splashes or whatever in ink blot but yeah dude that was us man if it was my if it was my only thing not b not those guys well that's us up we did a uh we did um this episode of a thing that's us on the House of Blues stage right there back in uh in North Myrtle Beach we were acoustic two acoustic guitars in a gym Bay but D we ran our whole like we ran that area bro yeah for a while but yeah they it we mixed our songs together we would do uh mashups like it would we'd pick a chord progression and just stick with it and try to see how many songs we could fit into that mhm and other bands would be like dude that thing you guys did was incredible like you guys been practicing that and we're like we've never practiced like we show up you turned into Allen Iverson you talking about practice you talking about practice we talking about I thought we was talking about the game I thought we talking about game but I don't even practice we never practiced and we were a man for 12 years and we may practice three three times yeah maybe just natural born showman not even that we were just we didn't give a [ __ ] yeah we were all we were all alcoholics we would show up and we would just take shots and we would get on stage and be like you know this song not really play all well here I know this song so that's the thing that was for cornbread what made us as good as we were was that as long as one of us knew the song like as long as me or Adam either guitar player as long as one of us knew the song we we could do it you could you could figure it out so like if Adam could play it and Smitty could sing it I'll I'll I'll noodle I'll figure it out we were both proficient both guitar players were very proficient with lead you guys had all played enough on your own time over the years that that it didn't matter and Smitty didn't even that's kind of how we are with the band like i' I've practiced a set uh in here by myself they send me like a a a a version of the set that I just practice to with all the stuff in between cuz we run on backing track have a backing track with the druml to a click and everything for the metal you kind of have to do that you know what I mean but uh we practiced one time and then RI that show hell yeah I got flew home practiced once just like boom cuz they've been playing music together for so long oh yeah well that's a thing where you guys are like doing original music it's a little different yeah and stuff like that so I mean we had originals and we would do them every now and again but we were a covers band we were a party Band we we wanted to make sure you had a good time oh yeah and that was us that's where the [ __ ] money is it it was man and like we're also the reason that band and Myrtle Beach don't get free tabs with their cuz you ran up that was us that was our fault we you're like the kid at school that put the gun under the table we're the there's like no no gum allowed someone is at fault here and it was us uh but yeah we we we had a band tab somebody commented the other day on a Facebook thing that I shared and uh they were like man I still remember that band tab that you guys posted a while back CU it was like a $300 Tab and we were only getting paid like $300 for that gig back then MH so yeah and you so you you read up you ran up what you got paid in alcohol yeah Jesus Christ but that was a regular occurrence but like it it was it was so to the point that we were not allowed to like the B the the restaurants in the area started like stopped allowing bands to drink for free and that was a th% say one person ruins it for everyone that was us we we did it but don't you feel like if it but to go back to what we were saying it's like don't you feel like if it was if it was just the one thing that you were doing was was just music that it wouldn't be enough are we just gluttonous in that way like it's like I don't know I don't know what it is sometimes it's like yeah do do we just want to challenge ourselves there's that but then the other thing it's like it's it's like it it's what it's like it's not enough almost like it's never enough nothing is ever enough man like I I uh I don't know man like even even in when everything is going right we started this episode talking about how good life is MH I still find a way to be sad yeah you know like it's it's still a thing that you know no matter it's never going to be enough I'll always be able to focus on what's not there rather than what is for some reason and I don't like a lot people like that though I think it's just how we were wired I well that's what I mean to say is like I I I I don't want to I I can only speak from my own experience and I I I have too much of a a a a proclivity of trying to speak on everyone's behalf because I feel like I'm just like everyone else and everyone else is just like me and I hold everyone to that standard way correct so I try to make sure to be like I'm only speaking from my my perspective so like if everybody is I'm I'm sure everybody is just still very doubtful even the person who feels who everything is is going right for like that person is probably still like man this [ __ ] sucks or it ain't enough they have their sight set on something else yeah everybody wants to make more money or you know get bigger do more show whatever it is that you do you want to progress at it most people yeah most yeah most people like most people who are fine and I would say that like they are multiple different types of people but I'm going to mark two of them are the people who are okay with like going to do it mundane job where you make decent money and you can make a really good life for yourself and do normal things and have a a family and and like a wife and then raise children and have enough gratification from that to have that be your thing that's I'm sure that's totally fine I wish I was one of those people sometimes I am not I'm not that yeah and like and and I think that a lot lot of people from back home maybe uh holds a little resentment towards me for leaving you know because like I think me getting out kind of puts a magnifying glass on oh man I wish I could do that it's like I've shown the the children where the matches are and there's one of your things yeah uh like yeah I've shown the children where the matches are so now they want to burn down the house well now it's just like wow man I wish I wish I could I wish I was that free to where I could just pick up and just leave yeah uh a a place I get that too sometimes from from people back home but to to Circle it back I guess and put a a ribbon on it and make it positive is that I am am so much happier doing I'm so happy I tried that new thing that you told me to try because here we are almost 2 years from that and I think we did that podcast in September two or December two years ago so December will be like a two years for me yeah and it's been so much fun I've made so many friends I've laughed laughing's healthy for you I feel great all the time you know what I mean and just you can see it on in my skin you know what I mean my hair oh yeah it's like I'm I'm you could tell I'm it's I'm happy and healthy and and it's like it's from trying new [ __ ] dude you got to try new [ __ ] if you're feeling stagnant or like you've done so much of one thing but that's your thing because like a lot of people do comedy or music or whatever and they're like no like this is like part of my personality like I have to be the guy that does music you know what I mean and it's like okay but what you could do something else you could do Jiu-Jitsu you could do you could do you know you could do try try something new and start at the bottom again and that journey is fun and you'll be like oh yeah that's why I fell in love with music so now I'm going to go push myself with music you know what I mean not that we have to like try to [ __ ] teach a lesson or whatever on the Pod like at the end of the Pod here but it's just I that that to me is what it's all about and you were a big part of me like you know taking that step to figure that out well I'm glad that you did man CU I'm sure that it uh I'm sure that it helps having some sort of a release that isn't the thing that we yeah and there's a level of camaraderie too with the within the community here that dud with with with almost all of us you know like we're all in the [ __ ] together and it's it's fun you know and then when someone leave Ari Matti starts [ __ ] blowing Goods on Rogan you're like oh [ __ ] you know what I mean and you're like you see these guys go off and I remember watching cam like before he was ever on discovered on Kil Tony or anything at the lucky duck one time like right after I started and I was like still like scared of you know what I mean like doing it and uh it was a packed Lucky Duck every picnic table was filled and he was down there on the ground you know like how it's like I try to explain it to people it's like the people are sitting up here and you're doing comedy down here there's like a step up to where you sit down and you do it's like you're doing comedy to people's KN you usually step up to the stage but you step down to this one it's like the best way to cut your teeth CU you're doing comedy to people's knees so it's like if there's ever a good Arena to figure it out in but I saw cam there just [ __ ] destroying it was like right when he moved here I think and he was I was like who is this guy and he was killing at to people's knees yeah just crushing and had them and they were all laughing and you're like dude damn and then to see like and then of course three months later he's regular and Kil Tony and you're like yeah for sure oh yeah well I was not surprised by that at all I remember the night he got to town I used to do oh do the pre-show for uh the darkh house shows Francisco ranong and Adam uh I used to do that show and cam showed up and did a set on that one and man and I don't think uh Francisco would ever heard him go up and he was like man this guy this guy's so funny he could be the next Eddie Murphy and like he I don't think he'd ever heard him go up and he was like yeah man I just said that I didn't I didn't know yeah that he could be the next Yeah Eddie Murphy he was just hosting he was just bringing the guy up right and in a funny way and man cam got up and was like Eddie Murphy I don't you know he just went with it and then moved on to a set and it was like really masterful to for someone who had been doing it for I think a year and a half at that point like almost a like a baby yeah in comedy and just like dude he's got a lot of [ __ ] figured out already that comedians usually don't get until a decade in right and not only that now he's growing faster because of his Sur surroundings because like imagine if you had the greatest comedians in the world in your year like what if what if that was your crew yeah no like the greatest comedians in the world were your crew that's and then like because you riff with your friends just like they like friends riff like imagine if you were riffing with the funniest people on the planet on a regular basis dude how much better you would get yeah and Ari maddy is the man I remember when Ari got to town I hung out with him the first night I saw the guy get shot downtown and I was weird I was the weird thing in the room that night and I got cuz you were having anxiety I got the feeling a different way cuz they were listening to music in the green room and kind of dancing around and stuff and I'm just kind of sitting there trying to like calm down and that that touched me in a weird way back then but but then like after I saw him go up and what really made me uh what really made me get AR Maddie was one night we did a staff show to nobody and I mean we were we there was nobody in the room Ari Maddy sat there the whole night he sat there in the crowd and he watched everybody go up and it was almost like you know I just want to see what everybody is I want to see who who's who I want to see what everybody he he watched every comedian set and then he would come up to people and like say hey this was really funny do this try this thing and that was just like a and not in like a Hey I'm um yeah I know it all yeah not in a know it all way yeah but but dude you can tell these people these people that show up that are just going to be huge and you can tell because of how they they Act and the respect that they have for everybody and Ari's got that cam has that that's a that's a thing yeah Drew Drew nickens is a is a sweetheart of a person dude he's just one of the nicest people on the planet like of course things are going to work out for the guy yeah and it's funny people get big and they forget that they came from they came from nothing too you know what I mean and like they're cool people they can still be cool people too like people in the Reddit going crazy or whatever but yeah people should never people should never uh people should never treat anybody that are in a position that they were once in differently than they would want to have been treated in their lives at that moment I know that said that weirdly but it was correct I think it's a good place to wrap it up dude you're the legend I [ __ ] love you y thanks for coming dude you're always uh you have an all expense paid pass here to the stew so thank you for thank you for coming through man I appreciate appreciate it uh you want to plug your stuff here in this one yes at Yonder wizard 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